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	<title>Comments on: Dinner for Two &#8211; Romance in aged care by Persephone</title>
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	<description>Conscious Ageing – the grand adventure?</description>
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		<title>By: Persephone Arbour</title>
		<link>http://www.persephonearbour.com/dinner-for-two-romance-in-aged-care-by-persephone/comment-page-1/#comment-3216</link>
		<dc:creator>Persephone Arbour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very cogent answer. And yes, that evening was orchestrated - is that a problem? In that moment the evening apparently generated a let go in staff, as well as participants. Trouble is, it seems you are still suggesting that there is something you can &#039;do&#039;! ie: &#039;opening to a perception of reality that isn&#039;t filtered through the mind&#039;. To me, &#039;let-go&#039; means just what it says. No purpose, no meaning no nothing, only whatever moment you happen to find yourself in. And yes, easier said than done. The reason? I don&#039;t think you can &#039;do&#039; letting go! Having said that I am glad you have found your own way to a less fearful outlook. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very cogent answer. And yes, that evening was orchestrated &#8211; is that a problem? In that moment the evening apparently generated a let go in staff, as well as participants. Trouble is, it seems you are still suggesting that there is something you can &#8216;do&#8217;! ie: &#8216;opening to a perception of reality that isn&#8217;t filtered through the mind&#8217;. To me, &#8216;let-go&#8217; means just what it says. No purpose, no meaning no nothing, only whatever moment you happen to find yourself in. And yes, easier said than done. The reason? I don&#8217;t think you can &#8216;do&#8217; letting go! Having said that I am glad you have found your own way to a less fearful outlook.</p>
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		<title>By: PJ Reece</title>
		<link>http://www.persephonearbour.com/dinner-for-two-romance-in-aged-care-by-persephone/comment-page-1/#comment-3215</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ Reece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re. &#039;meaning of life&#039;... of course there isn&#039;t any ultimate meaning to be found in any action or event itself.  But it seems to me that the unique challenge of being human is to open to a perception of reality that isn&#039;t filtered through the mind.  This is our purpose or &#039;meaning&#039;, isn&#039;t it?  With this &#039;in mind&#039;, I&#039;m less fearful of traversing old age, since &#039;seeing&#039; requires only a let-go.  (Easier said than done!)  The romantic evening struck me as one of those orchestrated opportunities for a let go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re. &#8216;meaning of life&#8217;&#8230; of course there isn&#8217;t any ultimate meaning to be found in any action or event itself.  But it seems to me that the unique challenge of being human is to open to a perception of reality that isn&#8217;t filtered through the mind.  This is our purpose or &#8216;meaning&#8217;, isn&#8217;t it?  With this &#8216;in mind&#8217;, I&#8217;m less fearful of traversing old age, since &#8216;seeing&#8217; requires only a let-go.  (Easier said than done!)  The romantic evening struck me as one of those orchestrated opportunities for a let go.</p>
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		<title>By: James E. Bonser</title>
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		<dc:creator>James E. Bonser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 11:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the question for me, concerning the meaning of life, is are we talking higher meaning or just the meaning of life in general? Some of us seperate the two, and search for a life time, waiting for the spiritual meaning to appear like lemon juice on warmed paper: &quot;Why would I exsist if nothing special or spiritual is expected of me? Drifting around the cosmos like a leaf in the wind is a waste of precious time, surely there has to be more?&quot; 

Once again we return to the search, the search for that unique spiritual upliftment that will make us special and, while waiting, we can miss the beauty of being just that simple leaf blowing in the wind. 

Some believe that the meaning of life can be found by doing the work of God. Somewhere I must have missed the call, I never heard him ask for my help. I would think that, being the creator of this little lot, he would not need it. I believe that not only do we live in a dream, we often delude ourselves into believing we have found the way out. &quot;If I can tell myself and convince myself that I have found the reason for being on this planet, then I will always know where I am.&quot; 

This would, of course, in turn separate us from all the others who have no idea why &lt;em&gt;they&lt;/em&gt; are here. I remember Osho saying, &quot;It is so easy to be special, it is so much harder to be ordinary&quot;. I know that I have no reason for being here, other than one night my mother and father, during the sexual act, conceived me. Beyond that, all is a mystery. Like the farmer said, &quot;The more I plough this field the less I know about it.&quot; 

To say something about the elderly, would be for me to presume too much. I suppose I will just have to wait and hope that my brain outlives me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the question for me, concerning the meaning of life, is are we talking higher meaning or just the meaning of life in general? Some of us seperate the two, and search for a life time, waiting for the spiritual meaning to appear like lemon juice on warmed paper: &#8220;Why would I exsist if nothing special or spiritual is expected of me? Drifting around the cosmos like a leaf in the wind is a waste of precious time, surely there has to be more?&#8221; </p>
<p>Once again we return to the search, the search for that unique spiritual upliftment that will make us special and, while waiting, we can miss the beauty of being just that simple leaf blowing in the wind. </p>
<p>Some believe that the meaning of life can be found by doing the work of God. Somewhere I must have missed the call, I never heard him ask for my help. I would think that, being the creator of this little lot, he would not need it. I believe that not only do we live in a dream, we often delude ourselves into believing we have found the way out. &#8220;If I can tell myself and convince myself that I have found the reason for being on this planet, then I will always know where I am.&#8221; </p>
<p>This would, of course, in turn separate us from all the others who have no idea why <em>they</em> are here. I remember Osho saying, &#8220;It is so easy to be special, it is so much harder to be ordinary&#8221;. I know that I have no reason for being here, other than one night my mother and father, during the sexual act, conceived me. Beyond that, all is a mystery. Like the farmer said, &#8220;The more I plough this field the less I know about it.&#8221; </p>
<p>To say something about the elderly, would be for me to presume too much. I suppose I will just have to wait and hope that my brain outlives me.</p>
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		<title>By: Persephone Arbour</title>
		<link>http://www.persephonearbour.com/dinner-for-two-romance-in-aged-care-by-persephone/comment-page-1/#comment-3172</link>
		<dc:creator>Persephone Arbour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The writer wonders what gives life meaning ‘at that age’. My question would be what gives life meaning at any age. My own thoughts on the matter are – maybe there is no meaning at all. At least, no specific one. 

We make goals, and if we are artists we become deeply involved in our art. If we are in business we make money. Most of us work or have worked for a living. We become embroiled for ever in our children and our grand-children’s lives – or not. Many of us have religious practices that can include company with like minded others. We eat, sleep, make love, read books, watch movies, walk, travel, garden and love our pets. We visit our friends and enjoy their company and, if lucky, we enjoy our own as well. All of these activities are outside us and can make us feel happy, sad, or indifferent. But would you say they give meaning? 

Perhaps they do, but I do not have a definitive answer. If I think about my own life I never ask whether it has meaning. I do know that I love and am grateful for it. It has covered the spectrum of what can happen to any human being, from tragedy to comedy. I am grateful for that, and don’t worry at all whether it has meaning or not!

And yes, for many – there comes a time when all those activities gradually slow down, and in some cases stop altogether, even though the body is still alive. With regards to those old people in their home: my deepest wish is that they will be given more special opportunities to feel loved and cared for. Most importantly, I wish that they are reached out to, with genuine intention to pierce the apparently clouded lives they live within themselves. I am not afraid of growing older and dying. But I am aware that there could come a time when I will need attention and care from someone else.

My hope is that conversations like this will reach far enough to those who do the caring, and help them recognise that none of us need to be sat in rows in front of a TV all day. What we need is a smile, a hug and a bit of attention. In other words – it is what happens in the present moment that counts. Those who have disappeared into themselves have only that present moment. As do we all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The writer wonders what gives life meaning ‘at that age’. My question would be what gives life meaning at any age. My own thoughts on the matter are – maybe there is no meaning at all. At least, no specific one. </p>
<p>We make goals, and if we are artists we become deeply involved in our art. If we are in business we make money. Most of us work or have worked for a living. We become embroiled for ever in our children and our grand-children’s lives – or not. Many of us have religious practices that can include company with like minded others. We eat, sleep, make love, read books, watch movies, walk, travel, garden and love our pets. We visit our friends and enjoy their company and, if lucky, we enjoy our own as well. All of these activities are outside us and can make us feel happy, sad, or indifferent. But would you say they give meaning? </p>
<p>Perhaps they do, but I do not have a definitive answer. If I think about my own life I never ask whether it has meaning. I do know that I love and am grateful for it. It has covered the spectrum of what can happen to any human being, from tragedy to comedy. I am grateful for that, and don’t worry at all whether it has meaning or not!</p>
<p>And yes, for many – there comes a time when all those activities gradually slow down, and in some cases stop altogether, even though the body is still alive. With regards to those old people in their home: my deepest wish is that they will be given more special opportunities to feel loved and cared for. Most importantly, I wish that they are reached out to, with genuine intention to pierce the apparently clouded lives they live within themselves. I am not afraid of growing older and dying. But I am aware that there could come a time when I will need attention and care from someone else.</p>
<p>My hope is that conversations like this will reach far enough to those who do the caring, and help them recognise that none of us need to be sat in rows in front of a TV all day. What we need is a smile, a hug and a bit of attention. In other words – it is what happens in the present moment that counts. Those who have disappeared into themselves have only that present moment. As do we all.</p>
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		<title>By: PJ Reece</title>
		<link>http://www.persephonearbour.com/dinner-for-two-romance-in-aged-care-by-persephone/comment-page-1/#comment-3166</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ Reece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. It frightens me, the prospect of reduced contact with people as we get older -- I&#039;m 64 now -- and I can imagine how much the romantic evening must have meant to some of them.  I imagine all manner of dinner conversation took place, from mock romantic to disant memories of lovers, to simply a heightened level of decorum and maybe even a lower level, you never know.  And it makes me wonder what gives life meaning at that age, and why it should be any different from any other age.  As far as I&#039;ve been able to make out, meaning is found in broadening our perspectives on every aspect of existence. How difficult that must be when we can no longer read or hear.  Wow, again.  To get together in a rarified atmosphere and look sincerely into another&#039;s eyes -- I bet some of those old timers are grateful for the chance to have escaped the confines of their tired old habits for an hour or so.  (I wouldn&#039;t mind it myself.)  I bet more than one of them are still relishing a glimpse into the well of love they glimpsed in someone else&#039;s eyes.  What better doorway to expanded consciousness?  !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. It frightens me, the prospect of reduced contact with people as we get older &#8212; I&#8217;m 64 now &#8212; and I can imagine how much the romantic evening must have meant to some of them.  I imagine all manner of dinner conversation took place, from mock romantic to disant memories of lovers, to simply a heightened level of decorum and maybe even a lower level, you never know.  And it makes me wonder what gives life meaning at that age, and why it should be any different from any other age.  As far as I&#8217;ve been able to make out, meaning is found in broadening our perspectives on every aspect of existence. How difficult that must be when we can no longer read or hear.  Wow, again.  To get together in a rarified atmosphere and look sincerely into another&#8217;s eyes &#8212; I bet some of those old timers are grateful for the chance to have escaped the confines of their tired old habits for an hour or so.  (I wouldn&#8217;t mind it myself.)  I bet more than one of them are still relishing a glimpse into the well of love they glimpsed in someone else&#8217;s eyes.  What better doorway to expanded consciousness?  !!!</p>
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